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	<title>Comments on: Safari 4 and a New Tabs Redesign</title>
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		<title>By: Make Stable Money Online</title>
		<link>http://www.designvsart.com/blog/2009/02/25/safari-4-and-a-new-tabs-redesign/comment-page-1/#comment-302</link>
		<dc:creator>Make Stable Money Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 02:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am about to switch over to Safari 4, hearing alot of good things in terms of its speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am about to switch over to Safari 4, hearing alot of good things in terms of its speed.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexis Brion</title>
		<link>http://www.designvsart.com/blog/2009/02/25/safari-4-and-a-new-tabs-redesign/comment-page-1/#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexis Brion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,

Thank you for your great comment.

I think you are right about the order of elements (app icons -&gt; tabs -&gt; page). That makes a lot of sense now. But I don&#039;t know why I have the feeling that this new order on Safari 4 could be the preparation for something bigger: what if web sites would be allowed to customized the browser&#039;s icons and controls to make web services/sites look like applications? In that case an arrangement like this would make sense:

[tabs tabs tabs]
[browser icons and controls, website-specific icons and controls]
[web page, content]

Of course, I&#039;m just imagining the future...

Thanks a lot for you comment!

Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>Thank you for your great comment.</p>
<p>I think you are right about the order of elements (app icons -> tabs -> page). That makes a lot of sense now. But I don&#8217;t know why I have the feeling that this new order on Safari 4 could be the preparation for something bigger: what if web sites would be allowed to customized the browser&#8217;s icons and controls to make web services/sites look like applications? In that case an arrangement like this would make sense:</p>
<p>[tabs tabs tabs]<br />
[browser icons and controls, website-specific icons and controls]<br />
[web page, content]</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;m just imagining the future&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks a lot for you comment!</p>
<p>Alex</p>
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		<title>By: David Hund</title>
		<link>http://www.designvsart.com/blog/2009/02/25/safari-4-and-a-new-tabs-redesign/comment-page-1/#comment-300</link>
		<dc:creator>David Hund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alexis,

Good points. I believe you are right: tabs on top of the &#039;page&#039; make most sense. I would hesitate to reference the users &#039;mental models&#039; in this context, however, because (clearly) tabs in browsers(!) have mostly (always for 99% of people) NOT been on top.

The result is that most people today would have to &#039;search&#039; for the tabs in safari 4. Even I had to get used to it (and I have been using a myriad of browsers, including Chrome, for a long time). So while it is true that people would have no doubts about the location of tabs on folders, I feel they would still look for tabs in browsers below(!) the addres bar.

People get used to it quickly, I guess, though.

One other thing: while I see the logic behind &#039;tabs on top of pages&#039; I wonder if the location bar should not be on top. Isn&#039;t the location bar a Interface Control, belonging to the application, rather than part of the specific page? Of course the URL _in_ the bar is specific for the page, but the bar itself (just as the home-button and bookmarks button) belongs to the browser application and not(!) to the current page. I would think they should, therefor, be detached from the page.

More logical would be:

[application icons and controls, including addres/search/awesome bar]
[tabs tabs tabs]
[page]

Anyway, good thoughts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alexis,</p>
<p>Good points. I believe you are right: tabs on top of the &#8216;page&#8217; make most sense. I would hesitate to reference the users &#8216;mental models&#8217; in this context, however, because (clearly) tabs in browsers(!) have mostly (always for 99% of people) NOT been on top.</p>
<p>The result is that most people today would have to &#8216;search&#8217; for the tabs in safari 4. Even I had to get used to it (and I have been using a myriad of browsers, including Chrome, for a long time). So while it is true that people would have no doubts about the location of tabs on folders, I feel they would still look for tabs in browsers below(!) the addres bar.</p>
<p>People get used to it quickly, I guess, though.</p>
<p>One other thing: while I see the logic behind &#8216;tabs on top of pages&#8217; I wonder if the location bar should not be on top. Isn&#8217;t the location bar a Interface Control, belonging to the application, rather than part of the specific page? Of course the URL _in_ the bar is specific for the page, but the bar itself (just as the home-button and bookmarks button) belongs to the browser application and not(!) to the current page. I would think they should, therefor, be detached from the page.</p>
<p>More logical would be:</p>
<p>[application icons and controls, including addres/search/awesome bar]<br />
[tabs tabs tabs]<br />
[page]</p>
<p>Anyway, good thoughts!</p>
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